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Huge kudos to Tyler Stearns for pointing out some of the potential dangers of this untested vaccine.

For more information on just how deadly this H1N1 pandemic scare and correlating vaccine MIGHT be, please visit the archives of our radio program by clicking "Archives" at nofda.com, and listen in to the interview with Dr. Len Horowitz (8/7). Also, be sure to check out the upcoming Jane Burgermeister interview either live on line, or by dialing 712-432-7225 at 7:50 AM this coming Wednesday (9/16). Jane is an Austrian journalist who will be calling into our show from Vienna to talk to you all about the lawsuit she currently has against the W.H.O. and the UN over her claim that this vaccine is designed TO KILL PEOPLE.

My advice...? Please don't take this vaccine, and don't let anyone you love take it either.

On a totally unrelated subject, congratulations to Harry vonKann of Kenyon for making first-team All-American at my other website (cdsdraft.com)

All the best...

Steve Martin
Host, The Aroostook Watchmen Radio Program
WXME-AM Monticello, Maine
Founder, Consensus Draft Services
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Governments always seem to have the collective IQ of an amoeba, going straight from stimulus to reaction with no thought at all of the implications of either of those two factors.

And this is the kind of knee-jerk repudiation of thought some people want to run the health care system?

The author tells us how many people had serious complications from the vaccine, but not how many people received the vaccine. He says it is more deaths than from the flu itself, but doesn't say how many of those there were. Then he implies that the vaccination program was halted because of these numbers... but doesn't state it, which is smart, because he hasn't proved it or even provided sufficient statistics to possibly have proved it.

Didn't Kenyon used to have a quantitative reasoning requirement?

Maybe Kenyon should have a "do a little investigation" requirement before posting too?

The evidence that this vaccine is UNTESTED AND DANGEROUS IS EVERYWHERE on the net and confirmed by dozens of respected doctors and scientists.

Maybe that's why more than half of Britian's G.P.s are refusing to take it, for example.

Google: squalene. Google: themerisol

Don't come back until you've done your homework.

Before a vaccine is released to the general public it must undergo significant tests and scrutiny. It isn't just willy nilly released upon completion and manufacture.

The Swine Flu strain today is not the same one as it was in the 1970s.

The fear comes from the fact that this flue, like the devastating Spanish Flu of 1918, kills younger people, who usually don't die from the flue.

Unfortunately, the potentially deadly side effects (esp. immune system degradation caused by squalene) take many months to assess, and this vaccine will be given to millions of people after cursory testing of subjects for just a few weeks with NO DIAGNOSTIC FOLLOWUP! All they are doing is calling and asking, "So how do you feel"...no follow up blood work, neurological assessments, nothing....and calling that "tested."

No in my body, you don't!

It's reasonable to think hard about the risks and benefits of any vaccine - but squalene isn't one of them in the United States. This compound has never been approved for adjuvant use in the US, and is not part of the 4 H1N1 vaccines which have been approved by the FDA.

Maybe that's what GPs in the UK are worried about, and maybe they're right (or not). It's not relevant in the USA, though.

You bring up some interesting points but the truth is that vaccines now are developed and tested in a much more thorough way than they were 30 years ago. Surely the technology now available to us and the wealth of experience from previous decades is enough for a safe and effective vaccine to be developed. And I do think it's a stretch to say that this is an attempt by government to extend its powers. Just because the government is recommending that people get the vaccine, that is a very large leap away from making it mandatory. In fact, the government always recommends that people get flu vaccines - every year. So this is no different than usual. Yes, some vaccinations are mandatory for children, but they have been for decades and it's pretty clear that those vaccines are safe. The intent behind mandating vaccines for children is to prevent these diseases and infections from spreading to other children. It's about the collective good rather than about individual freedom.

So they say....

However, one doctor yesterday said on Fox News that there will be "high levels of squalene" in what we are actually given, notwithstanding what has been tested.

When I was at Kenyon, Tyler Stearns repeatedly spammed the allstus with unproven garbage. His thorough lack of understanding for science is a disgrace. He could easily have walked to the science quad and asked a biology professor if what he wrote makes any sense or if it was dangerous and absurd. However, Tyler cannot be bothered with facts, when he has an opinion to crusade for. Tyler's unquestioning love for Ron Paul should be evidence enough that he is not a gifted critical thinker. I would not be surprised if Tyler also shared Ron Paul's misguided belief that evolution should not be taught in schools. Tyler is a joke; he has a right to speak his opinion, but I have a right to call him an idiot for making loose associations to irrelevant instances from 30 years ago that in no way demonstrate any semblance of evidence.

Last I checked, "a doctor on Fox News" isn't exactly setting high standards for fact-checking your information.

The H1N1 vaccines developed here in the United States were developed using the exact same technologies and systems as the annual flu shots that are routinely, and safely, administered across the country. The only difference is that they are trying to tackle a new variant (H1N1) than what is typically developed for seasonal flu, which is why there has been additional testing and faster development. They have the same risk factors as seasonal flu vaccines - those with allergies to eggs, for example, will be advised NOT to take the vaccine because the manufacturing process involves egg ingredients.

I personally don't care if someone chooses not to take the vaccine, but people should be equally vigilant about protecting themselves and others from infection as they are about spreading unproven and dangerous rumors about the vaccine. Every medical treatment or vaccine has potential side effects - no one is pretending that they don't - but the reality is that the current swine flu virus is very serious and has already shown (1) it travels very quickly, and (2) has already caused deaths and significant illness. Furthermore, the high rate of incidence and illness among young people (less than 24 years old) should be noted, as this isn't typical for seasonal flu strains that we see more frequently.

wow, this brings back some great memories! it seems like just yesterday i was watching all of these great shows, and more great shows. this homecoming theme has been so much fun!

Yes, I understand you. In it something is also thought excellent, agree with you.